AMY:Yes, for sure. HOBIE:which made it possible to focus in on,like,what was thebusiness that you want? So,think back to when I was starting my business,and as a husband or a partner to someone who was starting a business, what was the hardest part for you? They're in the messy middle. And I catch myself more. I feel like I'm working atwelve-to-twelvejob. HOBIE:Soboth of us were stressed out, worked like crazy, and who would have everI could have never imagined we were ever going to be at a point where it was like, huh. When I say that, does that sting a little? Would you agree? So that part,the freedom, the lifestyle freedom. Lately. I am so grateful for each and every one of you and for the sacrifices you made for our country. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. You're thebaddestchickon the Earth. This week's episode is near and dear to my heart as I talk with my ex-husband, Hobie and his wife/my forever friend, Amy, who were one of the first couples I ever fixed up 15+ years ago! There were a lot of times where I was scared that you might pull back because you didn't know,and you just kept going,and now we're coming out on the other side. AMY:So,tell me this. Before we go on with this question,do you believe all the stuff we've gone through of me building the businessall the tears, all the frustrations, all the comparing myself to others, all the hardships, the partnership, everything,this kind of dark season that I've been coming out ofis it all still worth it? I think that was one of thethings that was inspiring to me about you. HOBIE:Say itor change it. That's exactly what you'll get when you tune into the top-ranked Online Marketing Made Easy Podcast with your host, 9 to 5er turned CEO of a multi-million dollar business, Amy Porterfield. And trust me. And I also want to acknowledge my listeners who have served as well as all of my amazing students who have served. But tell me this. . You definitely need both. And the reason this is important for my audience to hear, many of them have not gotten out of a partnership, but as an entrepreneur, we are always going to have those moments where we come to a breaking point and were just kind of wondering, is this even freaking worth it? Like, its a long book. I knew I was going to be working, soIjust worked. But on Tuesdays I do an episode, but we call it aShorty episode. And if you'd be so kind and leave me a review, I'd be so grateful. As usual, we did alet's change everything all at once., Everything. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. You all know that I believe what you think creates feelings, feelings create actions,and actionscreate your results. But it also showed you what you did want to do and what you didn't wantto do. Me in it, in my business, knowing all the details, wanting to talk it out. Theyresomewhere along the way. Get two of my signature programs for the price of one! But I will also sayHobieis not a natural worrier like I am. Is it not true? And I wouldn't wantHobieto feel that way, and I wouldn't want to feel that way.So I guessweshouldn't give any advice about money. These cookies do not store any personal information. Confidence in knowing who should I hire or not hire? I love that you're home. And here's what I hope that you take away from this. HOBIE:And then I think that then it created another whole time of doubt,from the time it did break up to where you had the confidence to make it on your own. I think that's a huge roadblock. But I don't know who needed to hear that, but I just kind of wanted to share that, that I do that withHobiesometimes, and I'm not proud of it. AMY:Yeah. HOBIE:Again, I think that's personalities. HOBIE:And way older. Theyresomewhere along the way. But it also showed you what you did want to do and what you didn't wantto do. It is not just because I make the money. Amy C Porterfield, Age 46 Remove Record Get notified of updates So,now here we are in Tennessee and looking out this windowdid you see the deer that was there just a second ago? Amy Porterfield is the co-author of Facebook Marketing All-In-One for Dummies and the creator and host of the top-rated Online Marketing Made Easy Podcast. Maybe it's just that, just believe in yourself just a little bit more than you don't so that you can keep getting up every morning and pushing forward and doing the things you need to do to serve the audience you want to serve, but also to create the life that you really want. Thanks for joiningHobieand I today. AMY:Listen. Its true. Remember, you and I had done a lot of talking over the years getting this down. Bye for now. AMY:If you're not seeing the camera, we just kissed. Don't shy away from it! And the hard part is you coming at it from a business standpoint. We joke about it, but it's causeda lotwhy I'm in a dark season isthatwe did that, but that's another episode that I've already recordedand you guys have already heard. You've got this! We weren't on the same page anymore. Even in the early days,when I didn't even know what I was doing, which was such unfair pressure to put on myself. But we are looking at. AMY:No. But here,we've had people here. This Week Only. I have a husband that wants to take care of me, and you're very protective. You being outside of that. Don't you think I could have went to a four-day workweek five, six years ago? I am responsible for us. And I would use that almost as to say,You are wrong;I am right.Say it or change it. And sometimes,some days,itsa half a step in front of the other, you know? Ep. It's been a constant work. Yeah, that is somethingHobieand I will never understand from each other. That's really difficult. Yeah. Scout, yes, you are part of this interview, for sure. Through sharing her tried and true strategies, inspiring stories, and mindset shifts, Amy Porterfield, host of the top-rated podcast Online Marketing Made Easy and a 9-to-5 escapee who built an 8-figure online business on her terms, reveals: Why you don't need to know exactly what your business is going to be to get started. We get raw and real . So if you took anything away from this episode,my hope is that you realize what you think about yourself, about your worth, about your ability to create what you want to create is far more important than the strategies that I teach you about how to create courses and build your email list and do amazing promotions and all of that. But I don't know who needed to hear that, but I just kind of wanted to share that, that I do that withHobiesometimes, and I'm not proud of it. Maybe it's just that, just believe in yourself just a little bit more than you don't so that you can keep getting up every morning and pushing forward and doing the things you need to do to serve the audience you want to serve, but also to create the life that you really want. So when I talk to you, sometimes your energy and my energy doesn't match. So then the next time we try to be a little better than we were the time before. We were at a meeting where we made the decisionwe were going to separate, and we came up with the terms. AMY:Yeah. And he was young. The good thing with us is that after the fact, you and I have a really good,to me, a good relationship where we sit down and we talk about it. HOBIE:because you thought thatwas the most important thing. Because I don't even think it's an issue for us anymore. But it also, I mean,yes,thatsa lot of negative in it, too. We were at a meeting where we made the decisionwe were going to separate, and we came up with the terms. I still got issues. Okay. That's what defined me. #585: Truly Become An LGBTQ+ Ally & Run An Inclusive Business With Hank Paul, Listen To My Latest Podcast Episode:#585: Truly Become An LGBTQ+ Ally & Run An Inclusive Business With Hank Paul, HOBIEPORTERFIELD:If mindset,to me,could have been a quarter as important,25 percent as important as business planning. As a husband of an entrepreneur, how does it feel for you when you see, maybe there's a lack of confidence for me? But it's don't quit. AMY:Like, it'slikea whole new world. But I just love the fact that you're home every night,because as a firefighter, you work on every other night,and I hated that. I can name four or five people that I was dear friends with, and I'm not dear friends with now because our lives went different ways. HOBIE:Because we were so knee deep in one foot in front of the other that we couldn't have projectedat that time,I can't even imagine projecting what the future held,because we,for so long were,you were tooth and nail and trying to learn everything about a business that really didn't, a lot of it didnt exist when you started. Next day, you come at it a little harder. I rememberI think I've told you this,Hobie,beforebut one time whenHobie wasat the fire station, whenCadewas really young, I went to a baseball game. Yeah. HOBIE:It is. Amy Porterfield. So I'm sensitive to a little bit of this, but we're going to go for it. HOBIE:Yeah. AMY:Okay. That wasAvettBrothersAin'tNoMan.That was the song, the theme song,of where we were at our lives right there,because we played it all the time. For some reason, a little bit. But then the next day. HOBIE:And you are more of the finance person along the way, but its like ever since we switched towards a goal of a retirement and a family-security thing, that became both of us doing it. You are,like, I want to sayyou're the man of the house, but not in a way that's disrespectful. Yes, for sure. So say it or change itI would tell you,ButHobie,I have to work this weekend. So,as many of my listeners know, one of the biggest challenges was leaving the partnership that I was in. Special guests Amy & Hobie Porterfield join us to discuss Listen in to MORE Couples Episodes! Porterfield style,with the one and only,my husband,HobiePorterfield. But I think one thing that I did that really irritated youyou can tell me if I'm wrong. So hang in there, set your boundaries, lean into your support,and know that the freedom to focus and put your time and energy into the things that are the absolute most important to you, that will come. But if we gave a little bit advice about marriage and money, would you agree it would be to make sure both parties know all the details? Itsnot a step at all. But my question for you is, what do you feel came out of me going through the breakup of a partnership? And nobody knows everything. So,I guess that's a great point. Do you ever resent me for putting the business before you and, I hate to say it, even Cade? HOBIE:Like, you would take jobs,like,different things that were to fill your docket and make sure that money was coming in. We won't get into that. STAT:Many people accept it as fact that half of all first marriages end in divorce, 67% of second marriages end, and 73% of third marriages end. So you werenthardly making money,and I hardly wasn't making any money. So anyway, but that wasn't the point. Stop it, stop it. You were working the whole time. AndI wanted to die. HOBIE:And you're realizing that that's notafully true statement. So we had our moments of,oh,my gosh. 28 hours later. Remember, you and I had done a lot of talking over the years getting this down. Well, you're back. So,let's talk about the roadblocks in the beginning. Like,there was a whole ton of those things along the way. So that's,basically,what I wanted to share. And I'm not proud of it. Why wouldn't you be there today?Well, we've never looked at the numbers. HOBIE:If you didn't like it, then youchange. I was there. Sometimes you can get lucky and catch a lateral,but. Like,confidence inmaking changes, I think, is something you said, HOBIE:Like, right now, trying toadmit, like,when your entire life is completely in disarray right now or, you know, unorganizedspace. Everyone justalready knows, my audience knows you'rea prepper. I am making money for our family. And I think we're getting close. We'll come back to that. So be sure to take some time today to thank the veterans in your life. HOBIE:Yeah. She serves as the host of the top-ranked podcast, Online Marketing Made Easy. The good thing with us is that after the fact, you and I have a really good,to me, a good relationship where we sit down and we talk about it. Wait. Like, were so excited about that. holy crap, you could have been, you could be in another stratosphere right now. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. I make the most money. I love that we get to do life together. And way older. Yeah. AMY:Yeah. I've never shared this with all of you before, but my goal is to get to a place that I don't need to make a cent in order for us to be financially free, but I get to work just because I absolutely love it. They were things that I knew you had no interest in doing, and you just did thembecause the fear and the confidence of you being able to keep things going, you weretryingto constantly be,like,having an income source. You know, four-day workweek, part of my drive was to spend more time with you. I just thoughtit's not something that I really thought about. I also cringe and kind of want to cry when I hearHobiesay, Absolutely, you've putCade and I second to thebusiness.I mean, I just need to hear this formy ownnot always. HOBIE:I mean, I think it was the confidence. It's difficult to say forsureyes. But as you grow as an entrepreneur, so does your ability to handle the tough days. I mean,I don't know whereit's coming from, but that's. They're feeling shaky and fragile in the place that they're at. Like, whatdoesour spare time looks different than it did in California. But those are the years you're talking about. He 151k Followers . And then when you get here, you know, we get here,and everything changes. Everyone justalready knows, my audience knows you'rea prepper. If I was making good money,I was a good entrepreneur. Soboth of us were stressed out, worked like crazy, and who would have everI could have never imagined we were ever going to be at a point where it was like, huh. Well, I still don't quite understand how to sayitor changeit. But then the next day. Is that hard to hear just now? I knew the answer. You onlyhave,like,a couplelittle faults. As much as I don't work as much now as I used to, but we got to a point that we have lifestyle freedom. And so we started to really dig deep into that. Special guests Amy & Hobie . Yes. Hobie,I love you to the moon and back, youare my favorite person in the entire world, and I would not be where I am today without your support every step of the way. Me in it, in my business, knowing all the details, wanting to talk it out. HOBIE:I don't think it's an issue,because I think that we have spent so much time trying to figure out budgets and safety thingslike,I would say every two years we sit down and we do a whole new budget as far as what the future looks like, retirement. AMY:But I invite everyone, just so you know. See the links below for more info. AMY:Ive got enough food for twenty years. Ring the fire alarm because my better half, Mr. Hobie Porterfield, is lighting this place up! So I mean, again, that's a confidence thing,too. So,what sparked this podcast episode topic withHobieis that we often talk about the then and now and how our relationship has changed, how I've changed,and how entrepreneurship has really changed our lives for the better, albeit it hasn't always been an easy change, but standing here today, looking back, it always seems to work out, doesn't it? HOBIE:Yeah. Because you are alpha male,to the max. And I'm sensitive to say that because some people could say,Oh, you say that now, but you would never have what you have today if you didn't work all those hours.But don't you think that I just was fearful and that work was my identity, and so I thought I had to work all those hours? We would be nowhere near a retirement conversation. #585: Truly Become An LGBTQ+ Ally & Run An Inclusive Business With Hank Paul, Listen To My Latest Podcast Episode:#585: Truly Become An LGBTQ+ Ally & Run An Inclusive Business With Hank Paul. Well, I'm always coming at it from a combatant or from the athletic standpoint,where I got to get hyped up to overcome a confidence issue. And if it's not perfect,then, it causes you to go into a funk. AMY:And I guess I wanted to bring that up. AMY:Okay. So, whyit stings a little, I think we should probably tell them,is that when we movedto this house in Nashville,although it was a new house, it just neededa lot of work,and not like just,oh, this would be nice if it lookedthis way or that way. AMY:So,here's the thing. I also cringe and kind of want to cry when I hearHobiesay, Absolutely, you've putCade and I second to thebusiness.I mean, I just need to hear this formy ownnot always. HOBIE:But you got to keep one foot in front of the other. But to go back, have you ever felt second to the business? That's tough. Well, so is entrepreneurship. I could see in your face. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. Like, it'slikea whole new world. Amy Porterfield: When I tell you that my family was blue-collar to the bone, I mean it. AMY:Or maybe a step backwards. I mean, nothing compared to when we got started. And I just got to go, go, go, go, go. But those are the years you're talking about. Could be. So,that'swow, I've never heard you say that. Get two of my signature programs for the price of one! And nobody knows everything. Baseball is so boring. I think that was one of thethings that was inspiring to me about you. So that part,the freedom, the lifestyle freedom. HOBIE:holy crap, you could have been, you could be in another stratosphererightnow. And so I want to know where the numbers are at all time, like to a fault, probably. But the point being,I calledHobie,told him thebusiness was mine again, and then we met for dinner with our lawyer that night. AMY:But why? 366K Followers, 1,806 Following, 2,017 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Online Marketing Educator (@amyporterfield) You wereworking the whole time.I didn't know Cadenoticedthose things. So let's go back to the partnership. HOBIE:If mindset,to me,could have been a quarter as important,25 percent as important as business planning. So we might be in a crazy place right now, a little bit unsettled,but in a million years, would you have ever guessedlike, think about when we were at your firefighter graduation. What you think is more important than even what I teach you. But the partnership was a big one. We won't get into that. But I think one thing that I did that really irritated youyou can tell me if I'm wrong. It's like I use it to get away with my bad behavior of maybe working too much or worrying too much or justifying that what I am doing, theseunhealthy behaviors,are totally justified. because you thought thatwas the most important thing. Amy is the creator of Digital Course Academy, where she and her team help course creators get their bearings and the tools they need to launch successful programs for their students. But those were moments as well,where I had time in my entrepreneurial journey of kind of mourning what wasandnot knowing what was going to come. Tune in, get inspired, and get ready to . But here,we've had people here. So, yeah, because now we're starting to talk about retirement. Like,nobody has everything figured out. So I'm sensitive to a little bit of this, but we're going to go for it. If you haven't already, please share this episode with a friend or with a loved one.
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